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<section begin=Instructions/>The '''Closure requests''' noticeboard is for posting requests to have an uninvolved editor [[Wikipedia:Closing discussions|assess, summarize, and formally close a discussion]] on Wikipedia. Formal closure by an uninvolved editor or administrator should be requested where consensus appears unclear, where the issue is a contentious one, or where there are wiki-wide implications, such as when the discussion is about creating, abolishing or changing a [[Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines|policy or guideline]].

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'''Many discussions do not need formal closure and do not need to be listed here.'''

Many discussions result in a reasonably clear consensus, so if the consensus is clear, any editor—even one involved in the discussion—may close the discussion. The default length of a formal [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment|request for comment]] is 30 days (opened on or before '''{{#time:j F Y|-30 days}}'''); if consensus becomes clear before that and discussion has slowed, then it may be closed earlier. However, editors usually wait at least a week after a discussion opens, unless the outcome is [[Wikipedia:Snowball clause|very obvious]], so that there is enough time for a full discussion.

On average, it takes two or three weeks after a discussion has ended to get a formal closure from an uninvolved editor. When the consensus is reasonably clear, participants may be best served by ''not'' requesting closure and then waiting weeks for a formal closure.

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'''If the consensus of a given discussion appears unclear, then you may post a brief and neutrally-worded request for closure here'''; be sure to include a link to the discussion itself. ''Do not use this board to continue the discussion in question''. A [[User:Ajbura/anrfc-lister|helper script]] is available to make listing discussions easier.

If you disagree with a particular closure, please discuss matters '''on the closer's talk page''', and, ''if necessary'', request a [[Wikipedia:Closing discussions#Challenging a closing|closure review]] at the [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard|administrators' noticeboard]]. Include links to the closure being challenged and the discussion on the closer's talk page, and also include a policy-based rationale supporting your request for the closure to be overturned.

See [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Closure review archive]] for previous closure reviews.

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'''Any uninvolved editor may close most discussions, so long as they are prepared to discuss and justify their closing rationale.'''

Because requests for closure made here are often those that are the most contentious, closing these discussions can be a significant responsibility. Closers should be familiar with all policies and guidelines that could apply to the given discussion. All closers should be prepared to fully discuss the closure rationale with any editors who have questions about the closure or the underlying policies, and to provide advice about where to discuss any remaining concerns that those editors may have. Closers who want to discuss their evaluation of consensus while preparing for a close may use '''[[WP:Discussions for discussion]]'''.

A [[Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/Archive 12#Review|request for comment]] from February of 2013 discussed the process for appealing a closure and whether or not an administrator could summarily overturn a non-administrator's closure. The consensus of that discussion was that closures should not be reverted solely because the closer was not an administrator. However, special considerations apply for [[WP:Articles for deletion|articles for deletion]] and [[Wikipedia:Requested moves|move discussions]]—see [[Wikipedia:Deletion process#Non-administrators closing discussions]] and [[Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions#Non-admin closure]] for details.

To reduce editing conflicts and an undesirable duplication of effort when closing a discussion listed on this page, please append {{tlx|Doing}} to the discussion's entry here. When finished, replace it with {{tlx|Close}} or {{tlx|Done}} and an optional note, and consider sending a {{tlx|Ping}} to the editor who placed the request. A request where a close is deemed unnecessary can be marked with {{tlx|Not done}}. After addressing a request, please mark the {{tlx|Initiated}} template with {{para|done|yes}}. [[User:ClueBot III|ClueBot III]] will [[User:ClueBot III/Documentation#archivenow|automatically archive]] requests marked with {{tlx|Already done}}, {{tlx|Close}}, {{tlx|Done}} {{tlx|Not done}}, and {{tlx|Resolved}}.<section end=Instructions/>
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== Requests for closure ==

{{See also|Wikipedia:Requested moves#Elapsed listings|Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Old|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Awaiting closure|Wikipedia:Templates for discussion#Old discussions|Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion#Old business}}


=== Administrative discussions ===

====[[Wikipedia:Administrators%27 noticeboard/Archive339#Closure review: Portal links on the Main Page%27s top banner]] ====
{{initiated|18 December 2021}} Close challenge that itself needs a close. {{u|[[User:Sdkb|'''Sdkb''']]}} [[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']] 01:12, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

====T-Ban appeal====
{{Initiated|03:10, 13 January 2022 (UTC)}} A request at ANI to lift a T-ban under the heading of "Second Chance" ran for 8 days but the conversation dried up. It was then [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1088&diff=1066979984&oldid=1066781767| bot archived] before a decision was made one way or another. I would appreciate it if someone would formally close the discussion. Thank you. --[[User:Slugger O'Toole|Slugger O'Toole]] ([[User talk:Slugger O'Toole|talk]]) 13:28, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
::'''Note:''' the appeal is archived at [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1088#Second Chance]]. '''''[[User:Paine Ellsworth|P.I. Ellsworth]]'''''&numsp;- [[Editor|ed.]] [[User talk:Paine Ellsworth|put'r there]] 19:06, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

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=== Requests for comment ===

====[[Talk:Amendment to the Act on the Institute of National Remembrance#RfC: Legal analysis section]]====
{{Initiated| 2 January 2021}} RfC is well past due. This RfC seems to have fallen through the cracks. [[User:Jehochman|Jehochman]] [[User talk:Jehochman|Talk]] 16:27, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

==== [[Talk:Lachin#RFC: Looting, destruction, and violence in_Lachin 1992-1993]] ====
{{Initiated|19:48, 17 November 2021}} - RfC is expired. Can an uninvolved user or an admin close it? [[User:ZaniGiovanni|ZaniGiovanni]] ([[User talk:ZaniGiovanni|talk]]) 04:03, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

==== [[Talk:Reliability of Wikipedia#RFC: Warsaw concentration camp theory]] ====
{{Initiated|08:40, 26 November 2021 (UTC)}} - could an uninvolved, experienced editor close this? Thank you. '''[[User:Starship.paint|starship]][[Special:Contributions/Starship.paint|.paint]] ([[User talk:Starship.paint|exalt]])''' 10:52, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

==== [[Talk:List of presidents of the United States#Request for comment: sortability, scope metadata, order]]====
{{Initiated|19:52, 09 December 2021 (UTC)}} The RFC tag has expired, after one month. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 20:15, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

====[[Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Responses - 5P RFC]]====
{{Initiated|15:57, 17 December 2021 (UTC)}} RfC has expired and discussion fizzled out. [[User:Curbon7|Curbon7]] ([[User talk:Curbon7|talk]]) 19:33, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

====[[Talk:Mass killings under communist regimes#RFC: Structure of Mass killings under communist regimes]]====
{{Initiated|06:12, 19 December 2021 (UTC)}} The RFC tag has expired. We need a decision. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 18:21, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' - A panel close was required for the AfD on this subject, but fortunately, I don't think a panel close will be required for the RfC, as most of it looks much less contentious. It ''might'' be a good idea to request an administrator close instead of a non-admin close, however, just to be safe? [[User:Fieari|Fieari]] ([[User talk:Fieari|talk]]) 03:56, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

====[[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Catholicism#Request for comments - honorifics for antipopes]]====
{{Initiated|11:34, 23 December 2021 (UTC)}} Active discussion has ended among current participants. –[[User:Zfish118|Zfish118]]⋉[[User_talk:Zfish118|talk]] 14:27, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
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=== Deletion discussions ===
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==== CfD backlog ====
The backlog at [[WP:CFD]] reached an all-time high. If only 10 administrators would close 20 discussions each the problem would be solved though. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 06:48, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
: For what it's worth, it's not an all-time high yet; the backlog was larger in October 2020 ([[Special:PermaLink/984936361]]). [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|it has begun...]] 14:09, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

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=== Other types of closing requests ===

==== [[Talk:Guy Standing (economist)#Extended confirm protection too much?]] ====
{{Initiated|23:03, 7 September 2021 (UTC)}} Discussion that needs closing, possibly by an administrator if the consensus is to unprotect the article. ––[[User:FormalDude|'''''FormalDude''''']] [[File:Emojione 1F427.svg|18px|link=Special:Contributions/FormalDude]] [[User talk:FormalDude|'''talk''']] 02:31, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

==== [[Talk:Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder controversies#Merge from Social construct theory of ADHD]] ====
{{Initiated|02:37, 1 October 2021 (UTC)}}
Hi, could someone take a look at the merge proposal on Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder controversies? I [[Special:PermanentLink/1059749906|previously closed it]] but {{diff||next|1059756264|the closure was contested}} (there was also [[User talk:Xurizuri#Closing discussions|a further discussion on my talk page]]) and the merge was partially reverted. Relevant WikiProjects were notified again, with some additional input added. Because the closure was contested previously, my understanding is that it would be more appropriate for an uninvolved editor to close it. Note that there is a related comment under [[Talk:Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder controversies#Is it worth suggesting changes atm?|a later section]] Cheers. --[[User:Xurizuri|Xurizuri]] ([[User talk:Xurizuri|talk]]) 05:24, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

==== [[Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Requirement to contact copyright holders of existing content before allowing fair use]] ====
{{Initiated|15:26, 1 December 2021 (UTC)}}
I wonder whether a closure is necessary. If a bot archives the discussion before closing, then closure would be taken as not necessary. Right? --[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 16:19, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
:It wasn't entirely expected but I think we're making some progress again. — Alexis Jazz ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]] or ping me) 13:53, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

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