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Template:Did you know nominations/History of the Jews in Hong Kong (view source)
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* <s>... that Hong Kong's Jewish community '''[[History of the Jews in Hong Kong|formed]]''' in the 1850s?</s> <small>Source: https://www.anumuseum.org.il/jewish-community-hong-kong/</small>
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<small>5x expanded by [[User:Golden|Golden]] ([[User talk:Golden|talk]]). Self-nominated at 15:35, 26 January 2022 (UTC).</small>
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* Apologies if this is bad form, I'm new to DYK, but I would suggest a different hook to highlight the more interesting and surprising parts of the article, such as "... that in the late 1800s, '''[[History of the Jews in Hong Kong|Hong Kong's small Jewish community]]''' was divided into two groups that wouldn't even pray together?"
**{{re|Rusalkii}} Hello! Your proposed hook is much better than mine, I'm happy to change it to that. — [[User:Golden|<span style="color:#0F52BA;">Golden</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Golden|<span style="font-size:82%"><span>''call me maybe?''</span></span>]]</sup> 15:27, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
** '''ALT1:''' "... that in the late 1800s, '''[[History of the Jews in Hong Kong|Hong Kong's small Jewish community]]''' was divided into two groups that wouldn't even pray together?"
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|comments = A lovely piece of work - a narrative but source-/academically-backed summary of an interesting history. Just a few things to do. First, if you can confirm that this is just your second nomination (I see only one past success, but in case of far-back, or failed, noms, just to be sure). Second, there must be a citation for the hook fact. The refs are offline, so I can't say, but maybe one or more of the refs for the second sentence here also apply to the first sentence (The two communities did not even pray together and buried the dead in different parts of the Jewish cemetery. Ashkenazim were forced to settle in poor neighbourhoods and boarding houses, work in bars and clubs with a dubious reputation and some women worked in prostitution.[8][9])? Finally, the big one. A massive job has been done, but it does not seems to be 5 times expansion of the base text, but 4.x, and we do have to be strict on this, to be fair to all. So can you either demonstrate that the DYKCHeck tool is mistaken, and the expansion is 5x, or add a few more relevant sentences? Many thanks, and I look forward to being able to turn the couple of reds above green and approve this soon. {{u|Golden}} - can you come back on this?
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:{{re|SeoR}} Hi, sorry, I've been quite busy lately. Yes, this is my second ever nomination. About the citation, the sources are for both of the sentences, which is why it appears one sentence after our hook's line in the article (''Ehrlich, Mark Avrum (2008). Encyclopedia of the Jewish Diaspora: Origins, Experiences, and Culture.'' p.1187 & ''Gilman, Sander (2014). Judaism, Christianity, and Islam: Collaboration and Conflict in the Age of Diaspora'' p.101). When it comes to the size, I {{Diff|title|1070415044|1068637855|expanded|diffonly=yes}} the article further after your review with the last bits of information I could milk from the books and online sources I have access to. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any other available information about the subject that isn't already in the article. Is it a good enough size now? Cheers. — [[User:Golden|<span style="color:#0F52BA;">Golden</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Golden|<span style="font-size:82%"><span>''call me maybe?''</span></span>]]</sup> 10:06, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
:: {{u|Golden}}, great to hear from you, and yes, that further expansion work took it over the line, so we're good on scale - and on the citation, now that I know that re. the sources, I can make sure. Standing by to clear. Well done! Added comment: given the scale of coverage, I strongly recommend that, reading and where relevant modifying for the relevant guidelines, you consider taking this article to the Good Article process. I think it has the makings. [[User:SeoR|SeoR]] ([[User talk:SeoR|talk]]) 10:55, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
::: {{re|SeoR}} Thank you! I've already nominated the article for GAN, hopefully it does pass once picked up. Have a good day. — [[User:Golden|<span style="color:#0F52BA;">Golden</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Golden|<span style="font-size:82%"><span>''call me maybe?''</span></span>]]</sup> 11:13, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
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* <s>... that Hong Kong's Jewish community '''[[History of the Jews in Hong Kong|formed]]''' in the 1850s?</s> <small>Source: https://www.anumuseum.org.il/jewish-community-hong-kong/</small>
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<small>5x expanded by [[User:Golden|Golden]] ([[User talk:Golden|talk]]). Self-nominated at 15:35, 26 January 2022 (UTC).</small>
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* Apologies if this is bad form, I'm new to DYK, but I would suggest a different hook to highlight the more interesting and surprising parts of the article, such as "... that in the late 1800s, '''[[History of the Jews in Hong Kong|Hong Kong's small Jewish community]]''' was divided into two groups that wouldn't even pray together?"
**{{re|Rusalkii}} Hello! Your proposed hook is much better than mine, I'm happy to change it to that. — [[User:Golden|<span style="color:#0F52BA;">Golden</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Golden|<span style="font-size:82%"><span>''call me maybe?''</span></span>]]</sup> 15:27, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
** '''ALT1:''' "... that in the late 1800s, '''[[History of the Jews in Hong Kong|Hong Kong's small Jewish community]]''' was divided into two groups that wouldn't even pray together?"
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|comments = A lovely piece of work - a narrative but source-/academically-backed summary of an interesting history. Just a few things to do. First, if you can confirm that this is just your second nomination (I see only one past success, but in case of far-back, or failed, noms, just to be sure). Second, there must be a citation for the hook fact. The refs are offline, so I can't say, but maybe one or more of the refs for the second sentence here also apply to the first sentence (The two communities did not even pray together and buried the dead in different parts of the Jewish cemetery. Ashkenazim were forced to settle in poor neighbourhoods and boarding houses, work in bars and clubs with a dubious reputation and some women worked in prostitution.[8][9])? Finally, the big one. A massive job has been done, but it does not seems to be 5 times expansion of the base text, but 4.x, and we do have to be strict on this, to be fair to all. So can you either demonstrate that the DYKCHeck tool is mistaken, and the expansion is 5x, or add a few more relevant sentences? Many thanks, and I look forward to being able to turn the couple of reds above green and approve this soon. {{u|Golden}} - can you come back on this?
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:{{re|SeoR}} Hi, sorry, I've been quite busy lately. Yes, this is my second ever nomination. About the citation, the sources are for both of the sentences, which is why it appears one sentence after our hook's line in the article (''Ehrlich, Mark Avrum (2008). Encyclopedia of the Jewish Diaspora: Origins, Experiences, and Culture.'' p.1187 & ''Gilman, Sander (2014). Judaism, Christianity, and Islam: Collaboration and Conflict in the Age of Diaspora'' p.101). When it comes to the size, I {{Diff|title|1070415044|1068637855|expanded|diffonly=yes}} the article further after your review with the last bits of information I could milk from the books and online sources I have access to. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any other available information about the subject that isn't already in the article. Is it a good enough size now? Cheers. — [[User:Golden|<span style="color:#0F52BA;">Golden</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Golden|<span style="font-size:82%"><span>''call me maybe?''</span></span>]]</sup> 10:06, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
:: {{u|Golden}}, great to hear from you, and yes, that further expansion work took it over the line, so we're good on scale - and on the citation, now that I know that re. the sources, I can make sure. Standing by to clear. Well done! Added comment: given the scale of coverage, I strongly recommend that, reading and where relevant modifying for the relevant guidelines, you consider taking this article to the Good Article process. I think it has the makings. [[User:SeoR|SeoR]] ([[User talk:SeoR|talk]]) 10:55, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
::: {{re|SeoR}} Thank you! I've already nominated the article for GAN, hopefully it does pass once picked up. Have a good day. — [[User:Golden|<span style="color:#0F52BA;">Golden</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Golden|<span style="font-size:82%"><span>''call me maybe?''</span></span>]]</sup> 11:13, 7 February 2022 (UTC)