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Template:Did you know nominations/Bulli Bai case (view source)
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* ... that app [[Bulli Bai case|'''Bulli Bai''']] was used to create, an online mock auction of prominent women, to harass them? <small>Source: [https://www.dw.com/en/india-auction-of-muslim-women-on-apps-reveals-widespread-online-abuse/a-60379358 DW]</small>
** '''ALT1''': ... that creators of the [[Bulli Bai case|'''Bulli Bai''']] app, for an online mock auction of women, had used [[Sikhism|Sikh]] names to mislead people? <small>Source: "Names related to the Sikh community were used to make it look like these Twitter handles had been created by persons from that community," the police release issued in the evening said. The women who were targeted were Muslim, so there was a possibility that it could have created "enmity between two communities" and led to "breach of public peace", it said. [https://www.rediff.com/news/report/bulli-bai-accused-used-sikh-names-to-mislead-mumbai-police/20220105.htm] [https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/bulli-bai-app-probe-sikh-names-mislead-mumbai-police-1896530-2022-01-06]</small>
** '''ALT2''': ... that members of the [[alt-right]] [[Neo-Nazism|neo-Nazi]] groups, created the [[Bulli Bai case|'''Bulli Bai''']] app, for an online mock auction of Indian women? <small>Source: "Police have linked the creators of both apps to the online alt-right group “Trads” that derives inspiration from neo-Nazi online movements. [https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3n3j4/muslim-women-fetishized-auctioned-online-india Vice]</small>
** '''ALT3''': ... that the [[Bulli Bai case|'''Bulli Bai''']] app, was used for an online mock auction of Indian women? <small>Source: "Police have linked the creators of both apps to the online alt-right group “Trads” that derives inspiration from neo-Nazi online movements. [https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3n3j4/muslim-women-fetishized-auctioned-online-india Vice]</small>
** ''Reviewed'': Exempt
<small>Created by [[User:Venkat TL|Venkat TL]] ([[User talk:Venkat TL|talk]]) and [[User:Ainty Painty|Ainty Painty]] ([[User talk:Ainty Painty|talk]]). Nominated by [[User:Venkat TL|Venkat TL]] ([[User talk:Venkat TL|talk]]) at 08:08, 11 January 2022 (UTC).</small>
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* '''Comment''' Not reviewing it right now. Just asking if the lede could be more precise? Can citations be taken out and the lede be reconstructed. Few things in the body go uncited. I don't think the names of accused should be bolded this way? ─ [[User:TheAafi|<span style="color:SteelBlue">The Aafī</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:TheAafi|<span style="color:#80A0FF"><sup>(talk)</sup></span>]]</sup> 09:35, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
:*I do not think this belongs at the main page - NOTCENSORED applies but this is way too vile. Thanks for creating the article! [[User:TrangaBellam|TrangaBellam]] ([[User talk:TrangaBellam|talk]]) 18:01, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
::*Added Alt 2 [[User:Venkat TL|Venkat TL]] ([[User talk:Venkat TL|talk]]) 12:55, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
:::*{{u|Venkat TL}} I'm not sure why you still don't seem to understand that you're pushing a POV. For ALT2, the article makes it clear that it is alleged the group was responsible. I'm almost tempted to hold a discussion at DYK to see if all of your current POV nominations can be closed as failed. [[User:SL93|SL93]] ([[User talk:SL93|talk]]) 23:39, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
::::*If you are seeing an issue with the DYK you can say so. Added ALT3. [[User:Venkat TL|Venkat TL]] ([[User talk:Venkat TL|talk]]) 07:34, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
*[[File:Symbol possible vote.svg|16px]] Adding an icon here to clarify that there are POV issues that need to be addressed before the nomination can be approved (note that I am not reviewing the article, I am just leaving the icon here for clarity). Pinging {{u|SL93}} to have a second look at ALT3. [[User:Narutolovehinata5|<B><span style="color:#0038A8">Naruto</span><span style="color:#FCD116">love</span><span style="color:#CE1126">hinata</span>5</B>]] ([[User talk:Narutolovehinata5|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Narutolovehinata5|contributions]]) 11:00, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
:*{{u|Narutolovehinata5}} I would outright fail the nomination. The entire article only shows one side for a case that apparently hasn't went to court yet. Editors have continuously told the nominator to not push a POV, but they won't stop. I'm honestly sick of it. [[User:SL93|SL93]] ([[User talk:SL93|talk]]) 23:17, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
:::*Noted. [[File:Symbol delete vote.svg|16px]] Unless the POV concerns are properly addressed the nomination probably won't go anywhere. [[User:Narutolovehinata5|<B><span style="color:#0038A8">Naruto</span><span style="color:#FCD116">love</span><span style="color:#CE1126">hinata</span>5</B>]] ([[User talk:Narutolovehinata5|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Narutolovehinata5|contributions]]) 00:19, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
::::*[[User:Narutolovehinata5]] I will update the article. Need time. Hopefully the more updates will come on the case. Whatever is in reliable sources has been updated. SL93 is only doing personal attacks without any constructive or collaborative editing. After it gets updated would need fresh eyes.[[User:Venkat TL|Venkat TL]] ([[User talk:Venkat TL|talk]]) 07:01, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
::::::It should be noted that in the WT:DYK discussion, multiple editors (not just SL93) raised concerns about your articles, and it wasn't limited to just this one but the Price of Modi nomination as well. If any of your nominations are to be approved, all of them need to be rewritten to better meet NPOV. [[User:Narutolovehinata5|<B><span style="color:#0038A8">Naruto</span><span style="color:#FCD116">love</span><span style="color:#CE1126">hinata</span>5</B>]] ([[User talk:Narutolovehinata5|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Narutolovehinata5|contributions]]) 08:35, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
:::::::[[User:Narutolovehinata5]], lets do this step by step. We are all volunteers. Why this misuse of "ALL" and "ANY". The reiviewers in good faith should review the article and DYK at hand. When I am ready. I object to your strange conditions on DYK. [[User:Venkat TL|Venkat TL]] ([[User talk:Venkat TL|talk]]) 09:33, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
::::::::Those were not my comments. The ones who made those comments about POV (apart from SL93) were {{u|Gatoclass}}, {{u|Joseph2302}}, {{u|Theleekycauldron}}, and {{u|Andrew Davidson}}. If you have any concerns about the POV concerns, it would be better to ask them since they were the ones who noted those. [[User:Narutolovehinata5|<B><span style="color:#0038A8">Naruto</span><span style="color:#FCD116">love</span><span style="color:#CE1126">hinata</span>5</B>]] ([[User talk:Narutolovehinata5|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Narutolovehinata5|contributions]]) 10:04, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
:::::::::[[User:Narutolovehinata5]] and now you have pinged a bunch of editors. Please remove your comments not related to this article and this DYK to WT:DYK in the existing thread. You have my permission to move my comments. I request Narutolovehinata5 and everyone reading this comment to keep your replies focussed on improvements of this article and this DYK. [[User:Venkat TL|Venkat TL]] ([[User talk:Venkat TL|talk]]) 10:23, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
* '''Comment''' Alt2 is false. They are not neo-Nazi group. At least there are no convincing sources. [[User:Loew Galitz|Loew Galitz]] ([[User talk:Loew Galitz|talk]]) 16:58, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
* '''Comment''' the hooks are misleadin. There app was used to harass Indian '''Muslim''' women, which is an important detail. [[User:Loew Galitz|Loew Galitz]] ([[User talk:Loew Galitz|talk]]) 16:58, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
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* ... that app [[Bulli Bai case|'''Bulli Bai''']] was used to create, an online mock auction of prominent women, to harass them? <small>Source: [https://www.dw.com/en/india-auction-of-muslim-women-on-apps-reveals-widespread-online-abuse/a-60379358 DW]</small>
** '''ALT1''': ... that creators of the [[Bulli Bai case|'''Bulli Bai''']] app, for an online mock auction of women, had used [[Sikhism|Sikh]] names to mislead people? <small>Source: "Names related to the Sikh community were used to make it look like these Twitter handles had been created by persons from that community," the police release issued in the evening said. The women who were targeted were Muslim, so there was a possibility that it could have created "enmity between two communities" and led to "breach of public peace", it said. [https://www.rediff.com/news/report/bulli-bai-accused-used-sikh-names-to-mislead-mumbai-police/20220105.htm] [https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/bulli-bai-app-probe-sikh-names-mislead-mumbai-police-1896530-2022-01-06]</small>
** '''ALT2''': ... that members of the [[alt-right]] [[Neo-Nazism|neo-Nazi]] groups, created the [[Bulli Bai case|'''Bulli Bai''']] app, for an online mock auction of Indian women? <small>Source: "Police have linked the creators of both apps to the online alt-right group “Trads” that derives inspiration from neo-Nazi online movements. [https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3n3j4/muslim-women-fetishized-auctioned-online-india Vice]</small>
** '''ALT3''': ... that the [[Bulli Bai case|'''Bulli Bai''']] app, was used for an online mock auction of Indian women? <small>Source: "Police have linked the creators of both apps to the online alt-right group “Trads” that derives inspiration from neo-Nazi online movements. [https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3n3j4/muslim-women-fetishized-auctioned-online-india Vice]</small>
** ''Reviewed'': Exempt
<small>Created by [[User:Venkat TL|Venkat TL]] ([[User talk:Venkat TL|talk]]) and [[User:Ainty Painty|Ainty Painty]] ([[User talk:Ainty Painty|talk]]). Nominated by [[User:Venkat TL|Venkat TL]] ([[User talk:Venkat TL|talk]]) at 08:08, 11 January 2022 (UTC).</small>
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* '''Comment''' Not reviewing it right now. Just asking if the lede could be more precise? Can citations be taken out and the lede be reconstructed. Few things in the body go uncited. I don't think the names of accused should be bolded this way? ─ [[User:TheAafi|<span style="color:SteelBlue">The Aafī</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:TheAafi|<span style="color:#80A0FF"><sup>(talk)</sup></span>]]</sup> 09:35, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
:*I do not think this belongs at the main page - NOTCENSORED applies but this is way too vile. Thanks for creating the article! [[User:TrangaBellam|TrangaBellam]] ([[User talk:TrangaBellam|talk]]) 18:01, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
::*Added Alt 2 [[User:Venkat TL|Venkat TL]] ([[User talk:Venkat TL|talk]]) 12:55, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
:::*{{u|Venkat TL}} I'm not sure why you still don't seem to understand that you're pushing a POV. For ALT2, the article makes it clear that it is alleged the group was responsible. I'm almost tempted to hold a discussion at DYK to see if all of your current POV nominations can be closed as failed. [[User:SL93|SL93]] ([[User talk:SL93|talk]]) 23:39, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
::::*If you are seeing an issue with the DYK you can say so. Added ALT3. [[User:Venkat TL|Venkat TL]] ([[User talk:Venkat TL|talk]]) 07:34, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
*[[File:Symbol possible vote.svg|16px]] Adding an icon here to clarify that there are POV issues that need to be addressed before the nomination can be approved (note that I am not reviewing the article, I am just leaving the icon here for clarity). Pinging {{u|SL93}} to have a second look at ALT3. [[User:Narutolovehinata5|<B><span style="color:#0038A8">Naruto</span><span style="color:#FCD116">love</span><span style="color:#CE1126">hinata</span>5</B>]] ([[User talk:Narutolovehinata5|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Narutolovehinata5|contributions]]) 11:00, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
:*{{u|Narutolovehinata5}} I would outright fail the nomination. The entire article only shows one side for a case that apparently hasn't went to court yet. Editors have continuously told the nominator to not push a POV, but they won't stop. I'm honestly sick of it. [[User:SL93|SL93]] ([[User talk:SL93|talk]]) 23:17, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
:::*Noted. [[File:Symbol delete vote.svg|16px]] Unless the POV concerns are properly addressed the nomination probably won't go anywhere. [[User:Narutolovehinata5|<B><span style="color:#0038A8">Naruto</span><span style="color:#FCD116">love</span><span style="color:#CE1126">hinata</span>5</B>]] ([[User talk:Narutolovehinata5|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Narutolovehinata5|contributions]]) 00:19, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
::::*[[User:Narutolovehinata5]] I will update the article. Need time. Hopefully the more updates will come on the case. Whatever is in reliable sources has been updated. SL93 is only doing personal attacks without any constructive or collaborative editing. After it gets updated would need fresh eyes.[[User:Venkat TL|Venkat TL]] ([[User talk:Venkat TL|talk]]) 07:01, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
::::::It should be noted that in the WT:DYK discussion, multiple editors (not just SL93) raised concerns about your articles, and it wasn't limited to just this one but the Price of Modi nomination as well. If any of your nominations are to be approved, all of them need to be rewritten to better meet NPOV. [[User:Narutolovehinata5|<B><span style="color:#0038A8">Naruto</span><span style="color:#FCD116">love</span><span style="color:#CE1126">hinata</span>5</B>]] ([[User talk:Narutolovehinata5|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Narutolovehinata5|contributions]]) 08:35, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
:::::::[[User:Narutolovehinata5]], lets do this step by step. We are all volunteers. Why this misuse of "ALL" and "ANY". The reiviewers in good faith should review the article and DYK at hand. When I am ready. I object to your strange conditions on DYK. [[User:Venkat TL|Venkat TL]] ([[User talk:Venkat TL|talk]]) 09:33, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
::::::::Those were not my comments. The ones who made those comments about POV (apart from SL93) were {{u|Gatoclass}}, {{u|Joseph2302}}, {{u|Theleekycauldron}}, and {{u|Andrew Davidson}}. If you have any concerns about the POV concerns, it would be better to ask them since they were the ones who noted those. [[User:Narutolovehinata5|<B><span style="color:#0038A8">Naruto</span><span style="color:#FCD116">love</span><span style="color:#CE1126">hinata</span>5</B>]] ([[User talk:Narutolovehinata5|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Narutolovehinata5|contributions]]) 10:04, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
:::::::::[[User:Narutolovehinata5]] and now you have pinged a bunch of editors. Please remove your comments not related to this article and this DYK to WT:DYK in the existing thread. You have my permission to move my comments. I request Narutolovehinata5 and everyone reading this comment to keep your replies focussed on improvements of this article and this DYK. [[User:Venkat TL|Venkat TL]] ([[User talk:Venkat TL|talk]]) 10:23, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
* '''Comment''' Alt2 is false. They are not neo-Nazi group. At least there are no convincing sources. [[User:Loew Galitz|Loew Galitz]] ([[User talk:Loew Galitz|talk]]) 16:58, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
* '''Comment''' the hooks are misleadin. There app was used to harass Indian '''Muslim''' women, which is an important detail. [[User:Loew Galitz|Loew Galitz]] ([[User talk:Loew Galitz|talk]]) 16:58, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
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