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'''[[Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#rfc_27F1A69|Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard]]'''
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Are independent, secondary sources considered reliable to state the [[Staffordshire Bull Terrier]] was formerly known by the names "Bull and Terrier", "Bull Terrier", "Pit dog", "Half and Half" and "Bulldog Terrier"? [[User:Cavalryman|Cavalryman]] ([[User talk:Cavalryman|talk]]) 02:52, 8 February 2022 (UTC)}}
'''[[Talk:2022 Winter Olympics#rfc_79D1FA7|Talk:2022 Winter Olympics]]'''
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A significant amount of Talk page discussion and reverting has focused on the question of whether or not to include a summary of the subsection of the article dealing with Controversies in the lead section. The RFC is to determine if consensus among editors is that article should or should not include a summary of the Controversies section in the lead section, and what form it should take if consensus is that some version of a summary of the Controversies section should be included in the lead section.
:Option (A): The lead section should not include a summary of the subsection on Controversies in the lead section, since the article is ostensively about the sporting events taking place at the Olympics.
:Option (B): Include a neutral version of a summary of the subsection on Controversies which does not single out any of the nearly two dozen Controversies currently listed in the subsection on Controversies.
:Option (C): Include a version of the summary of the subsection on Controversies which lists the human rights issues and Ugyur controversies as examples of the many Controversies currently taking place at the Winter Olympics.
:Option (D): Other options.
Editors are requested to await the conclusion of the RFC before adding further edits about Controversies into the lead section. [[User:ErnestKrause|ErnestKrause]] ([[User talk:ErnestKrause|talk]]) 17:07, 7 February 2022 (UTC)}}
'''[[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sports#rfc_A4E5A1D|Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sports]]'''
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What should the naming scheme for equestrian events{{efn|This would include all pages with titles of the same form as [[Equestrian at the Summer Olympics]], a scheme not limited to Olympics themselves; as well as the whole of the category tree, starting with [[:Category:Equestrian at multi-sport events]]}} be altered to? [[User:RandomCanadian|RandomCanadian]] ([[User talk:RandomCanadian|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/RandomCanadian|contribs]]) 15:13, 1 February 2022 (UTC)}}
'''[[Talk:Wingnut (politics)#rfc_9C1E28D|Talk:Wingnut (politics)]]'''
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'''Question:''' Is there sufficient material in the body of the article for the following sentence (with refs as indicated) to be added to the lede:
"According to language [[pundit]] [[William Safire]], the term derives from the older phrase "right-wing nut",<nowiki><ref name=safire2008 /></nowiki> and although it is occasionally directed at extremists on the political [[left (political attitude)|left]], it is primarily aimed at those on the [[far right politics|far-right]].<nowiki><ref name=safire2006 /><ref name=safire2008 /><ref name="nytimeswingnut" /><ref name=lexico /></nowiki>"
This version of the article can be found [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wingnut_(politics)&oldid=1069211971 here]. [[User:Beyond My Ken|Beyond My Ken]] ([[User talk:Beyond My Ken|talk]]) 06:04, 1 February 2022 (UTC)}}
'''[[Talk:Freedom Convoy 2022#rfc_91F314F|Talk:Freedom Convoy 2022]]'''
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Should there be a mention of the desecrations of the [[Terry Fox]] statue and the [[National War Memorial (Canada)|National War Memorial]] in the lead section of the article? <span style="background: #e2f8ff;">-[[Special:Contributions/GhostOfDanGurney|<span style="color:#57b1cc">"''Ghost''</span>]] ''of'' [[User_talk:GhostOfDanGurney|<span style="color:#57b1cc">''Dan Gurney''"</span>]]</span> 20:51, 31 January 2022 (UTC)}}
'''[[Talk:Uyghur genocide#rfc_45651B4|Talk:Uyghur genocide]]'''
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'''What changes should be made to the first sentence of this article?'''
*'''Option A:''' Change the first sentence to {{tq|The '''Uyghur genocide''' is the series of ongoing human rights abuses committed by the government of China against Uyghurs and other ethnic and religious minorities in Xinjiang}}.
*'''Option B:''' Change the first sentence to {{tq|"The Chinese government has committed a series of ongoing human rights abuses against Uyghurs and other ethnic and religious minorities in Xinjiang, often characterized as genocide."}}
*'''Option B2''' Change the first sentence to {{tq|"Since 2014, the Chinese government has committed a series of ongoing human rights abuses against Uyghurs and other ethnic and religious minorities in Xinjiang, often characterized as genocide."}}
*'''Option C:''' Change the first sentence to {{tq|The allegations of oppression of the Uighur ethnic group, that some Western academics have characterized as a genocide, constitute a series of alleged human rights abuses committed by the government of China against Uyghurs and other ethnic and religious minorities in Xinjiang}}
*'''Option D:''' Replace the current first sentence with some other descriptive sentence.
*'''Option E:''' Leave the first sentence as-is.
— [[User:Mhawk10|Mhawk10]] ([[User talk:Mhawk10 |talk]]) 20:49, 30 January 2022 (UTC)}}
'''[[Talk:Ukrainian crisis#rfc_B41629C|Talk:Ukrainian crisis]]'''
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Should [[Ukrainian crisis]] be a disambiguation page? (Rather than an article on the 2014 crisis that resulted in the Russian annexation of [[Crimea]].)
[[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 22:35, 28 January 2022 (UTC)}}
'''[[Talk:Martin Luther King Jr.#rfc_03191AF|Talk:Martin Luther King Jr.]]'''
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Is it permissible to use "African American" or "Black American" in the lead sentence? [[User:Sundayclose|Sundayclose]] ([[User talk:Sundayclose|talk]]) 22:36, 22 January 2022 (UTC)}}
'''[[Talk:College and university rankings#rfc_BBCF456|Talk:College and university rankings]]'''
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Should the [https://academicinfluence.com/schools Academic Influence rankings] be included in this article? <span style="color:#AAA"><small>{{u|</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}}</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 00:27, 22 January 2022 (UTC)}}
'''[[Talk:List of online encyclopedias#rfc_7686A23|Talk:List of online encyclopedias]]'''
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Hi All,
I would like to expand this list with online encyclopedias that do not have their own Wikipedia articles. I believe they are relevant to Wikipedia but don't necessarily need their own articles ([[List of 19th-century encyclopedias|other]] encyclopedia lists also have items without an article). I would use [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mix'n'match/Catalogues this list] compiled for Wikidata properties - plenty of important, academic encyclopedias. When I tried to start expanding the list, my edits were reverted by {{ping|MrOllie}}. See our discussion about this [[User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_15#List_of_online_encyclopedias|here]]. One of his concerns was that the list would be filled with fan wikis - this can be avoided easily that the list only includes non-open reference works. Anyway, could you chip in and tell if it's okay for me to expand the article? Thanks.
[[User:Adam Harangozó|Adam Harangozó]] ([[User talk:Adam Harangozó|talk]]) 17:02, 20 January 2022 (UTC)}}
'''[[Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Sports notability#rfc_EA06F26|Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Sports notability]]'''
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Abolish the current version of [[WP:NSPORTS|NSPORTS]]. This page, far from being {{tq|rules of thumb which some editors choose to keep in mind when deciding whether or not to keep an article}}, does not help the decision process, but actively hampers it. Examples are countless of one group of editors (whether it be football, olympics, or plenty of others) arguing that an article should be kept because (correctly or not) its subject "passes N[some random sport]" or that "sportsperson from long time ago, there [[WP:MUSTBESOURCES]]"; and others correctly arguing that the existing coverage is not sufficient to write an encyclopedia article ([[WP:NOTDATABASE|as opposed to a database entry]]). This leads to needless conflict, pointless AfDs and DRVs, and above all bureaucratic waste of time. Abolishing this guideline and falling back directly to GNG would also help in reducing issues of [[WP:BIAS]] and the disproportionate amount of (usually white, male, European) sports figures that are included, as well as make policy more understandable to newer and more experienced editors alike by avoiding issues of [[WP:CREEP]]. [[User:RandomCanadian|RandomCanadian]] ([[User talk:RandomCanadian|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/RandomCanadian|contribs]]) 16:13, 19 January 2022 (UTC)}}
'''[[Wikipedia talk:Article titles#rfc_399E354|Wikipedia talk:Article titles]]'''
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This is a proposal to explicitly permit the use of dash-separated titles for sports events, where such a construction is presently inconsistent with [[WP:AT]]. [[User:Cinderella157|Cinderella157]] ([[User talk:Cinderella157|talk]]) 09:41, 19 January 2022 (UTC)}}
'''[[Talk:2020 Nagorno-Karabakh ceasefire agreement#rfc_0544B18|Talk:2020 Nagorno-Karabakh ceasefire agreement]]'''
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Should [[Zangezur corridor]] be merged into [[2020 Nagorno-Karabakh ceasefire agreement]] (this page)? See filer's original question for details. [[User:El_C|El_C]] 22:17, 16 January 2022 (UTC)}}
'''[[Talk:Sri Lanka Armed Forces#rfc_31CCEAE|Talk:Sri Lanka Armed Forces]]'''
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Shall the content proposed below, on human rights violations, in either of the two forms proposed below, be added to the article?
[[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 20:10, 9 January 2022 (UTC)}}
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'''[[Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#rfc_27F1A69|Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard]]'''
{{rfcquote|text=
Are independent, secondary sources considered reliable to state the [[Staffordshire Bull Terrier]] was formerly known by the names "Bull and Terrier", "Bull Terrier", "Pit dog", "Half and Half" and "Bulldog Terrier"? [[User:Cavalryman|Cavalryman]] ([[User talk:Cavalryman|talk]]) 02:52, 8 February 2022 (UTC)}}
'''[[Talk:2022 Winter Olympics#rfc_79D1FA7|Talk:2022 Winter Olympics]]'''
{{rfcquote|text=
A significant amount of Talk page discussion and reverting has focused on the question of whether or not to include a summary of the subsection of the article dealing with Controversies in the lead section. The RFC is to determine if consensus among editors is that article should or should not include a summary of the Controversies section in the lead section, and what form it should take if consensus is that some version of a summary of the Controversies section should be included in the lead section.
:Option (A): The lead section should not include a summary of the subsection on Controversies in the lead section, since the article is ostensively about the sporting events taking place at the Olympics.
:Option (B): Include a neutral version of a summary of the subsection on Controversies which does not single out any of the nearly two dozen Controversies currently listed in the subsection on Controversies.
:Option (C): Include a version of the summary of the subsection on Controversies which lists the human rights issues and Ugyur controversies as examples of the many Controversies currently taking place at the Winter Olympics.
:Option (D): Other options.
Editors are requested to await the conclusion of the RFC before adding further edits about Controversies into the lead section. [[User:ErnestKrause|ErnestKrause]] ([[User talk:ErnestKrause|talk]]) 17:07, 7 February 2022 (UTC)}}
'''[[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sports#rfc_A4E5A1D|Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sports]]'''
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What should the naming scheme for equestrian events{{efn|This would include all pages with titles of the same form as [[Equestrian at the Summer Olympics]], a scheme not limited to Olympics themselves; as well as the whole of the category tree, starting with [[:Category:Equestrian at multi-sport events]]}} be altered to? [[User:RandomCanadian|RandomCanadian]] ([[User talk:RandomCanadian|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/RandomCanadian|contribs]]) 15:13, 1 February 2022 (UTC)}}
'''[[Talk:Wingnut (politics)#rfc_9C1E28D|Talk:Wingnut (politics)]]'''
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'''Question:''' Is there sufficient material in the body of the article for the following sentence (with refs as indicated) to be added to the lede:
"According to language [[pundit]] [[William Safire]], the term derives from the older phrase "right-wing nut",<nowiki><ref name=safire2008 /></nowiki> and although it is occasionally directed at extremists on the political [[left (political attitude)|left]], it is primarily aimed at those on the [[far right politics|far-right]].<nowiki><ref name=safire2006 /><ref name=safire2008 /><ref name="nytimeswingnut" /><ref name=lexico /></nowiki>"
This version of the article can be found [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wingnut_(politics)&oldid=1069211971 here]. [[User:Beyond My Ken|Beyond My Ken]] ([[User talk:Beyond My Ken|talk]]) 06:04, 1 February 2022 (UTC)}}
'''[[Talk:Freedom Convoy 2022#rfc_91F314F|Talk:Freedom Convoy 2022]]'''
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Should there be a mention of the desecrations of the [[Terry Fox]] statue and the [[National War Memorial (Canada)|National War Memorial]] in the lead section of the article? <span style="background: #e2f8ff;">-[[Special:Contributions/GhostOfDanGurney|<span style="color:#57b1cc">"''Ghost''</span>]] ''of'' [[User_talk:GhostOfDanGurney|<span style="color:#57b1cc">''Dan Gurney''"</span>]]</span> 20:51, 31 January 2022 (UTC)}}
'''[[Talk:Uyghur genocide#rfc_45651B4|Talk:Uyghur genocide]]'''
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'''What changes should be made to the first sentence of this article?'''
*'''Option A:''' Change the first sentence to {{tq|The '''Uyghur genocide''' is the series of ongoing human rights abuses committed by the government of China against Uyghurs and other ethnic and religious minorities in Xinjiang}}.
*'''Option B:''' Change the first sentence to {{tq|"The Chinese government has committed a series of ongoing human rights abuses against Uyghurs and other ethnic and religious minorities in Xinjiang, often characterized as genocide."}}
*'''Option B2''' Change the first sentence to {{tq|"Since 2014, the Chinese government has committed a series of ongoing human rights abuses against Uyghurs and other ethnic and religious minorities in Xinjiang, often characterized as genocide."}}
*'''Option C:''' Change the first sentence to {{tq|The allegations of oppression of the Uighur ethnic group, that some Western academics have characterized as a genocide, constitute a series of alleged human rights abuses committed by the government of China against Uyghurs and other ethnic and religious minorities in Xinjiang}}
*'''Option D:''' Replace the current first sentence with some other descriptive sentence.
*'''Option E:''' Leave the first sentence as-is.
— [[User:Mhawk10|Mhawk10]] ([[User talk:Mhawk10 |talk]]) 20:49, 30 January 2022 (UTC)}}
'''[[Talk:Ukrainian crisis#rfc_B41629C|Talk:Ukrainian crisis]]'''
{{rfcquote|text=
Should [[Ukrainian crisis]] be a disambiguation page? (Rather than an article on the 2014 crisis that resulted in the Russian annexation of [[Crimea]].)
[[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 22:35, 28 January 2022 (UTC)}}
'''[[Talk:Martin Luther King Jr.#rfc_03191AF|Talk:Martin Luther King Jr.]]'''
{{rfcquote|text=
Is it permissible to use "African American" or "Black American" in the lead sentence? [[User:Sundayclose|Sundayclose]] ([[User talk:Sundayclose|talk]]) 22:36, 22 January 2022 (UTC)}}
'''[[Talk:College and university rankings#rfc_BBCF456|Talk:College and university rankings]]'''
{{rfcquote|text=
Should the [https://academicinfluence.com/schools Academic Influence rankings] be included in this article? <span style="color:#AAA"><small>{{u|</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}}</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 00:27, 22 January 2022 (UTC)}}
'''[[Talk:List of online encyclopedias#rfc_7686A23|Talk:List of online encyclopedias]]'''
{{rfcquote|text=
Hi All,
I would like to expand this list with online encyclopedias that do not have their own Wikipedia articles. I believe they are relevant to Wikipedia but don't necessarily need their own articles ([[List of 19th-century encyclopedias|other]] encyclopedia lists also have items without an article). I would use [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mix'n'match/Catalogues this list] compiled for Wikidata properties - plenty of important, academic encyclopedias. When I tried to start expanding the list, my edits were reverted by {{ping|MrOllie}}. See our discussion about this [[User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_15#List_of_online_encyclopedias|here]]. One of his concerns was that the list would be filled with fan wikis - this can be avoided easily that the list only includes non-open reference works. Anyway, could you chip in and tell if it's okay for me to expand the article? Thanks.
[[User:Adam Harangozó|Adam Harangozó]] ([[User talk:Adam Harangozó|talk]]) 17:02, 20 January 2022 (UTC)}}
'''[[Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Sports notability#rfc_EA06F26|Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Sports notability]]'''
{{rfcquote|text=
Abolish the current version of [[WP:NSPORTS|NSPORTS]]. This page, far from being {{tq|rules of thumb which some editors choose to keep in mind when deciding whether or not to keep an article}}, does not help the decision process, but actively hampers it. Examples are countless of one group of editors (whether it be football, olympics, or plenty of others) arguing that an article should be kept because (correctly or not) its subject "passes N[some random sport]" or that "sportsperson from long time ago, there [[WP:MUSTBESOURCES]]"; and others correctly arguing that the existing coverage is not sufficient to write an encyclopedia article ([[WP:NOTDATABASE|as opposed to a database entry]]). This leads to needless conflict, pointless AfDs and DRVs, and above all bureaucratic waste of time. Abolishing this guideline and falling back directly to GNG would also help in reducing issues of [[WP:BIAS]] and the disproportionate amount of (usually white, male, European) sports figures that are included, as well as make policy more understandable to newer and more experienced editors alike by avoiding issues of [[WP:CREEP]]. [[User:RandomCanadian|RandomCanadian]] ([[User talk:RandomCanadian|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/RandomCanadian|contribs]]) 16:13, 19 January 2022 (UTC)}}
'''[[Wikipedia talk:Article titles#rfc_399E354|Wikipedia talk:Article titles]]'''
{{rfcquote|text=
This is a proposal to explicitly permit the use of dash-separated titles for sports events, where such a construction is presently inconsistent with [[WP:AT]]. [[User:Cinderella157|Cinderella157]] ([[User talk:Cinderella157|talk]]) 09:41, 19 January 2022 (UTC)}}
'''[[Talk:2020 Nagorno-Karabakh ceasefire agreement#rfc_0544B18|Talk:2020 Nagorno-Karabakh ceasefire agreement]]'''
{{rfcquote|text=
Should [[Zangezur corridor]] be merged into [[2020 Nagorno-Karabakh ceasefire agreement]] (this page)? See filer's original question for details. [[User:El_C|El_C]] 22:17, 16 January 2022 (UTC)}}
'''[[Talk:Sri Lanka Armed Forces#rfc_31CCEAE|Talk:Sri Lanka Armed Forces]]'''
{{rfcquote|text=
Shall the content proposed below, on human rights violations, in either of the two forms proposed below, be added to the article?
[[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 20:10, 9 January 2022 (UTC)}}
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