Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Politics, government, and law

The following discussions are requested to have community-wide attention:

Wikipedia talk:Userboxes

Any topics covered by discretionary sanctions are usually divisive enough to invite vandalism. With that in mind, aren't all discretionary sanction topics divisive enough to be deleted? ☢️Plutonical☢️ᶜᵒᵐᵐᵘⁿᶦᶜᵃᵗᶦᵒⁿˢ 12:40, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Talk:2022 Winter Olympics

A significant amount of Talk page discussion and reverting has focused on the question of whether or not to include a summary of the subsection of the article dealing with Controversies in the lead section. The RFC is to determine if consensus among editors is that article should or should not include a summary of the Controversies section in the lead section, and what form it should take if consensus is that some version of a summary of the Controversies section should be included in the lead section.

Option (A): The lead section should not include a summary of the subsection on Controversies in the lead section, since the article is ostensively about the sporting events taking place at the Olympics.

Option (B): Include a neutral version of a summary of the subsection on Controversies which does not single out any of the nearly two dozen Controversies currently listed in the subsection on Controversies.

Option (C): Include a version of the summary of the subsection on Controversies which lists the human rights issues and Ugyur controversies as examples of the many Controversies currently taking place at the Winter Olympics.

Option (D): Other options.

Editors are requested to await the conclusion of the RFC before adding further edits about Controversies into the lead section. ErnestKrause (talk) 17:07, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Brahma Chellaney

Should:

• A) Shekhar Gupta’s views of Chellaney be included in the article?
• B) some of the criticisms ([1] & [2]) of Chellaney’s application of his debt trap diplomacy theory to the case of China's takeover of Sri Lanka’s Hambantota port be removed?

Options:

1. YES to A and B
2. NO to A and B
3. YES to A and NO to B
4. NO to A and YES to B

The context for the rfc can be found in the Talk:Brahma Chellaney#Advertisement section Estnot (talk) 13:55, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Francisco Franco

Question: Should the "Fascism" sidebar and "fascist" categories such as "Spanish fascists", "Christian fascists" and "Fascist rulers" be included in this article? Beyond My Ken (talk) 17:52, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Wingnut (politics)

Question: Is there sufficient material in the body of the article for the following sentence (with refs as indicated) to be added to the lede:

"According to language pundit William Safire, the term derives from the older phrase "right-wing nut",<ref name=safire2008 /> and although it is occasionally directed at extremists on the political left, it is primarily aimed at those on the far-right.<ref name=safire2006 /><ref name=safire2008 /><ref name="nytimeswingnut" /><ref name=lexico />"

This version of the article can be found here. Beyond My Ken (talk) 06:04, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Freedom Convoy 2022

Should there be a mention of the desecrations of the Terry Fox statue and the National War Memorial in the lead section of the article? -"Ghost of Dan Gurney" 20:51, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Uyghur genocide

What changes should be made to the first sentence of this article?

• Option A: Change the first sentence to The Uyghur genocide is the series of ongoing human rights abuses committed by the government of China against Uyghurs and other ethnic and religious minorities in Xinjiang.
• Option B: Change the first sentence to "The Chinese government has committed a series of ongoing human rights abuses against Uyghurs and other ethnic and religious minorities in Xinjiang, often characterized as genocide."
• Option B2 Change the first sentence to "Since 2014, the Chinese government has committed a series of ongoing human rights abuses against Uyghurs and other ethnic and religious minorities in Xinjiang, often characterized as genocide."
• Option C: Change the first sentence to The allegations of oppression of the Uighur ethnic group, that some Western academics have characterized as a genocide, constitute a series of alleged human rights abuses committed by the government of China against Uyghurs and other ethnic and religious minorities in Xinjiang
• Option D: Replace the current first sentence with some other descriptive sentence.
• Option E: Leave the first sentence as-is.

— Mhawk10 (talk) 20:49, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Wingnut (politics)

Request for consensus: Should the category "Category:Far-right politics in the United States" be removed because the category "Category:Extremism" already properly covers the term "wingnut"? --Nicholas0 (talk) 19:11, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Template talk:Yes

should the colour of Template:No be the current lighter #FFC7C7 or the original darker #99? Gooduserdude (talk) 17:28, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Ukrainian crisis

Should Ukrainian crisis be a disambiguation page? (Rather than an article on the 2014 crisis that resulted in the Russian annexation of Crimea.)

Robert McClenon (talk) 22:35, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Peng Shuai

There's an editor who's repeatedly tried to remove from the lead the assertion that Peng's disappearance was suspected to be forced.

Do the sources provided in the discussion above support the use of this characterization? NickCT (talk) 15:20, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Socialism

Should the sentence While no single definition encapsulates the many types of socialism, social ownership is the one common element and regulation of the means of production by government or society aimed at community benefit be changed to While no single definition encapsulates the many types of socialism, social ownership is the one common element or regulation of the means of production by government or society aimed at community benefit, that is, the "and" replaced with an "or"? BeŻet (talk) 14:20, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Brian Rose (podcaster)

Should we have a longer or shorter description of Brian Rose's podcasting work around the COVID-19 pandemic? Two possible versions for the article text are given. Bondegezou (talk) 16:20, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Opinion polling for the 2022 Australian federal election

Should the table of polling results include rows commenting on particular events, e.g. the row that says, "31 October 2021: French President Emmanuel Macron calls Scott Morrison a liar", as has been being discussed above? The obvious options are No, Yes minimally (only changes in party leaders and election results) (as was the model being used) or Yes maximally (commentary on many events) (as with the current version of the article). Editors may wish to add other options.

If yes to the last of those options, what items should be included and how should this be determined? Options here might include Any items receiving considerable RS coverage or Any items where RS discuss how the event may shift polling or Any items where RS say the event shifted polling. Again, editors may wish to add other options. We can presume that normal rules, WP:CONSENSUS etc., would apply. Bondegezou (talk) 11:55, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Camp Ashraf

Should this article have a section on alleged sexual abuses (see text below the text in blue), or is a mention in the article enough? Ypatch (talk) 07:14, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Talk:2020 Nagorno-Karabakh ceasefire agreement

Should Zangezur corridor be merged into 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh ceasefire agreement (this page)? See filer's original question for details. El_C 22:17, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Nestorian rebellion

Should the article subject be changed from Nestorian to Assyrian? I explained my reasoning on the talk page;

the main source used in this article "The Emergence of Kurdish Nationalism and the Sheikh Said Rebellion, 1880–1925" states the people were Assyrian. "One of these was the Assyrian (Nestorian) rebellion of 3-4 September 1924 of Beyt Sebab, which, as indicated above, was itself very much related to the Sheikh Said rebellion." Nestorian is a theology of Christianity that is incorrect and does not apply to Assyrians and was incorrectly used sometimes to describe them. The Assyrian people page explains this as well: Assyrian_people

1. Yes
2. No

TukultīApilEšarra (talk) 01:24, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Politics of Austria

For years now editors have disagreed on whether to use the word 'federal' as prefix on articles related to Austrian politics and public administration (especially when it comes to the president, the chancellor, and the ministries), e.g. Ministry of the Interior (Austria), Federal Ministry of Finance (Austria).

Arguments for omission:

1) User:Kramler has written an essay on why it is misleading to use the prefix from a legal and scholarly perspective 2) The vast majority of English language sources omit 'federal' (examples: 1 2 3 4 5 6)

Arguments for inclusion:

1) It is the literal translation 2) The English language websites of government ministries use the prefix (examples: 1 2 3 4 5)

Thus should we include or omit the word 'federal' as a prefix? Colonestarrice (talk) 11:59, 16 November 2021 (UTC)